2011-08-31 Yatah gets help
3rdthawkins: hello yatah alt, made exact time, huh
alt: hello 3rdthawkins & yatah... hope you two are doing well today.
3rdthawkins: doing good, think yatah may be away
yatah: hi all
3rdthawkins: wb yatah, how are you?
yatah: i am doing fine
3rdthawkins: that's good
alt: yep, was doing some updating of the database from ancestry & familysearch and the time got away from me.
yatah: got my grandpa 's death cer last week or so
3rdthawkins: yeah, time can pass you buy when you get busy that's great yatah, any good/new information?
alt: wonderful yatah,,, did it reveal anything 'new' for you?
3rdthawkins: hello davissiano
alt: hello daviss, how are ya doing?
daviss: hello 3rd alt and yatah!!
yatah: yea and information about his work before and his business parents on too
3rdthawkins: cool, yeah, some DC's will wil give occupation and military status/service that's great yatah
daviss: anything new on FS alt?
3rdthawkins: have you been able to search further for him with parents name now yatah?
alt: yep, they uploaded more Ohio records to their existing collections in the past month or so daviss
daviss: ok alt, thats great to hear
yatah: name is edward quiller and josephine quiller i mean josephine darby
daviss: I am glad you are getting more information yatah!
3rdthawkins: you had those names before, didn't you yatah? at least Josephine's?
alt: and I'm liking their advanced search more and more daviss
3rdthawkins: I don't know if I still have the info that I helped you with, since I changed computers, I will have to look through my emails, it should be saved in my sent file
yatah: my grandpa work at postal clark and business is steel plant
daviss: They finally signed the contract with Tx and put most of their records back online
yatah: yes rite make sure i get rite name
alt: are you doing a Happy Dance daviss? )
daviss: I thought I was losing my mind for awhile. I knew that I had seen the records before and poof they were gone lol
alt: that can be frustrating daviss
yatah: he dead in pa but i dont know where he born but he live in south carolina
daviss: well yes and no not yet alt lol I need to find some of my folks
3rdthawkins: ok yatah, you had mother's name, Josephine, not father's name, so now you have father's name, Edward Quiller
daviss: I have found neighbors in Grfimes County Texas Grimes
3rdthawkins: you would need to order his SSA yatah
yatah: yes josephine's mom i have and i dont know who josephine's father yes edward quiller that my grandpa's father
Seventies Soulchild: Good afternoon all
3rdthawkins: hello Seventies
alt: howdy Seventies Soulchild
yatah: i think josephine's father maybe white or another gave to her name maybe
Seventies Soulchild: So what is new in the world of African-American genealogy?
yatah: how cost ssa ?
daviss: yatah look in your old records .. I think you have Josephines parents name
Seventies Soulchild: Alt thank you very much for sending me those documents about Tom Smith.
daviss: hello seventies
Seventies Soulchild: hi daviss
alt: yw Seventies Soulchild, hope they help in some small way.
3rdthawkins: $27 with ssn $29 without, you must provide a proof of death if you don't have ssn yatah
yatah: davis, i nput my book somewhere yes grandpa has ss number
3rdthawkins: ok, so order his ssa
daviss: ok you need to find it.. look in closet, dresser drawer and everywhere.
yatah: yea i will
3rdthawkins: JOsephine's parents are Smith Darby and Mary A Darby have it here in my email
daviss: I wish I had keep all that info yatah but I deleted from my computer about two years ago
yatah: which one i have trust 1890 or 1895 ?
Seventies Soulchild: They did, so now I have the will of Baxter Smith, the lawsuit documents, the book where the family members are named, some of the census records and now this. Hopefully once all of this information gets analyzed I'll have a good picture of the family
alt: yatah, a 30.00 investment in a genealogy software package will save you a lot of trouble and you will always have your information a 'mouse click' away.
3rdthawkins: for who yatah?
yatah: josephine bec 130 1930 m said 1895
Seventies Soulchild: alt, I'm begging my cousin to do a book on the Smith family... begging...
yatah: 1910 said 1890
3rdthawkins: she's 20 in 1910 with one child under ten, I would say 1890
Seventies Soulchild: lol
3rdthawkins: hello Selma
daviss: sounds like to me seventies the picture is becoming clearer and clearer
alt: hello Selma, how are ya?
yatah: make sense
Seventies Soulchild: Hi Selma
Selma: Good Wednesday afternoon folks
daviss: Hello Selma!!
Seventies Soulchild: Maybe I'm working on early admits today... something I don't normally do, its slow going...
3rdthawkins: so refresh my memory yatah, Luther Quiller was who?
alt: Seventies Soulchild, if you have the information on your computer you could give her a 'boost' by printing out a narrative report on what you have, that might get her started.
yatah: what age is jospehine has clarence quiller he born 1921 what yrs
Seventies Soulchild: I'm about to go out to Detroit lol
yatah: that josephine and edward's first child luther born about 1910 or 1909
alt: is that where your cousin is located? take your computer and a flash drive with you to leave for her LOL
Seventies Soulchild: She has pictures of many of the Smiths... they were given to her. So lucky. Oh I have a flash drive lol
3rdthawkins: ok, your father was?
alt: or if she has a computer askr her to send you a GEDCOM file.. or vice versa.
Seventies Soulchild: they have RootsMagic also alt and the tree is on ancestry one world. My cousin Philip sent me a copy of the tree. so I filled in where I could.
fierybug08: hello everybody
alt: hello fierybug08.
Seventies Soulchild: hey fierybug08!
Selma: Hi fierybug
3rdthawkins: hello fierybug
daviss: hello there fierybug
Seventies Soulchild: I've decided that the kids and I are going to take a winter vacay to D.C. tee hee hee
fierybug08: *virtual wave* to Seventies Soulchild alt daviss 3rdthawkins Selma yatah
fierybug08: sounds good to me...i'll come meet ya!
alt: for photos, if she cares to share and is on Facebook have her post them there and you can do a copy & "save as".
Seventies Soulchild: So if anyone wants to do some research over the x-mas New Years break let me know. alt tried that too she's older and intimidated by technology.
3rdthawkins: my grandmother's niece's sister doesn't like departing with photos, she can't even get her to make a copy of the photo, she has to negotiate with her, crazy
alt: okay Seventies Soulchild, some of us 'older' folks are intimidated by the technology.
yatah: 3rd, rem i told you i found more children of edward and josephine after has luther ?
fierybug08: see that's why you demonstrate the coolness about technology
yatah: and died early ?
Seventies Soulchild: She did work with an archivist in Selma... but the lady has since died.
alt: I just have my toes in the water technology-wise LOL
Seventies Soulchild: lol yeah right!
3rdthawkins: not sure yatah
fierybug08: alt...i think it's good that you can appreciate. You know the basics. Email and genealogy software.
Seventies Soulchild: When I was discussing the items I found online with her, she knew right away who the people were alt. Seems like the black family had close connection with the white family. She kind of thinks that we are related to the Smiths.
3rdthawkins: wanted to ask you about the Joseph Darby in PA pennitentary in 1930....have you discovered if that was him or not yatah?
alt: and it doesn't hurt that I was in IT, or Data Processing, as we used to call it for 30+ years fierybug08
Seventies Soulchild: I'm not convinced though.
fierybug08: lol at least you know how to improvise when the power goes out. how many youngsters can say the same thing lol their idea of recess or play time is FB or watching videos
Seventies Soulchild: exactly alt
yatah: not sure about it you can sent me one i can look up if same yrs he born
fierybug08: hi ProfDru!
3rdthawkins: hello ProfDru, how's it going?
Seventies Soulchild: Hey ProfDru!
yatah: if all darby live in pa
Seventies Soulchild: Enough about the Smiths.. lol
3rdthawkins: 1930 Pennsylvania Montgomery Eastern State Penitentiary Series T626 Roll 2084 Page 137 Image 6 Darby Joseph Inmate M Neg 32 ? 21 SC SC SC
daviss: well well well, Hi there Prof Dru, it is good to see you!!! lol
alt: Hello ProfDru. how are ya? And yep I'll be listening to AY @ 2:00 PM LOL
fierybug08: me too alt lol
ProfDru: Won't be here long; just wanted to remind everyone about Angela's webinar.
yatah: he born in south carolina rite
3rdthawkins: yes yatah
Seventies Soulchild: could you post a link?
daviss: all signed up and as they say, ret to go lol
yatah: he go jail
Seventies Soulchild: lol I'm not signed up... but I suppose I could do that sometime in the next hour or so
3rdthawkins: not sure if it is him, yatah, just wanted to know if you or someone in the family knew about that, if it fits
yatah: mine too i not sure if it him or not
Seventies Soulchild: brb
daviss: seventies are you talking about the legacy link'
ProfDru: you can find the link on my blog, www.findyourfolks.blogspot.com
yatah: that why i need look 1920 where josephine and edward been no luck find
3rdthawkins: yeah, that messes it up
yatah: 1920 josephine age 30 's
daviss: How's it going with you Dru?
Selma: I will be there Dru
ProfDru: ok, vicky
yatah: still n firgure where they been or move areound
ProfDru: I'm not sure if I will make it due to a meeting. On the phone with Angela now.
daviss: thats good Dru and glad to see you back here I think it will be around 11 am here
yatah: my grandpa born 1921
ProfDru: gotta run
3rdthawkins: so did you find them in 1930 yatah?
3rdthawkins: where were they living?
alt: yatah, sounds like your quiller family was part of the migration North to the Steel Mills of PA during the 1920's & 1930's.
yatah: in south carolina st matthews
fierybug08: i would love to see a program about preparing for the 1940s census-- presented at Legacy webinar? any takers? alt daviss?
daviss: alt I talked to Ancestry yesterday about my I dna designation
3rdthawkins: ok, so could still be there in 1920, might have just not gotten enumerated for whatever reason, or there is a so-called "Missing" census
fierybug08: what did they say daviss?
alt: what did they say daviss
3rdthawkins: yeah, would love to hear about that daviss
yatah: or not record maybe
3rdthawkins: maybe not yatah
yatah: when start slave ?
daviss: they sent me a link that the I is indeed a MTDNA haplo
yatah: i just wonder alt , maybe
alt: really!!!! I was under the impression it was only for Y-DNA.. that being the case you learn something new every day.
yatah: there is i have quilla and quiller that i found
3rdthawkins: slavery was abolished and made illegal in 1865 yatah
daviss: The person that I talked to will talk to her super who was absent yesterday to see if they would re-look at my sample
alt: and I learned sumpin new!!!!
daviss: for free of course lol
3rdthawkins: so, what does the new discovery mean??
fierybug08: sounds good to me
yatah: birth: 1895 —South Carolina residence: 1930 —Saint Matthews, Calhoun, South Carolina census: 1930 —Saint Matthews, Calhoun, South Carolina children: Luther Quiller, Clarence Quiller
alt: two things 3rdthawkins 1. bearnur2 & I was wrong 2. that daviss has Euro female direct line ancestry.
3rdthawkins: oh, wow
daviss: here is the link alt
yatah: 3rd look i found birth: Newberry, S.C. spouse: Josephine Darby child: Christa Belle Quilla
3rdthawkins: oh, wow oops, great yatah
alt: your copy & paste works daviss Yeah!!!!!!
yatah: that died yrs 1929 and she born 1919
daviss: lol I have my grand daughters computer alt
yatah: father ed quilla
daviss: the other one crashed I am working on getting another one
3rdthawkins: ok yatah, so you will need to order your grandfather's SSA
yatah: ok what ssa i look for ?
3rdthawkins: your father's I mean, you grandfather
yatah: ok it will tell more information ?
daviss: alt, it is what it is but need to find out if it is what it is lol re: retest
yatah: anyway look alike last name quilla and quiller
3rdthawkins: his birthplace, date of birth, residence at time he filled out SSA, parents name what year he filled out the SSA
daviss: I also want to get my brother to test at FTDNA
Seventies Soulchild: ok I'm back
3rdthawkins: welcome back
yatah: can you find edgal quilla draft war i cant enter to open ?
3rdthawkins: go to familysearch yatah
alt: shhhh, gotta stop talking bout Seventies Soulchild , she's back LOL LOL
daviss: lol @ alt
Seventies Soulchild: lol alt
yatah: maybe i sure he filled out he become 18
3rdthawkins: lol alt.........................yatah familysearch has wwi and wwII draft cards
yatah: oh i dont know i not see that thanks
3rdthawkins: oops, they only have WWII daft cards yatah, but don't think they would have it for S.C.
Seventies Soulchild: I'm getting ready to dig a little deeper into the Rounds family in slavery. Going to order some more records from LSU.
3rdthawkins: ancestry has WWI
Selma: Gotta run folks, have a great day
yatah: yes i know edward quiller on ww1 drafts card know as edgal quilla
alt: Selma's gotta get in a quick nap before 2:00 PM LOL
yatah: where i can find
daviss: I think she just hopped to it lol
3rdthawkins: WWII cards for S.C. have been destroyed yatah
Seventies Soulchild: lol
alt: oh, oh I'm gonna tell her you're dropping 'hopping' jokes on her daviss LOL
daviss: lol gonna blame it on seventies
Seventies Soulchild: Other than genealogy, I'm getting the youngin's ready for this new school year.... money money MONEY!!! lol say what??? lol
yatah: what about drafts card ww1
daviss: lol lol lol boy seventies you guys haven't started school yet?
Seventies Soulchild: I am thankful that my kids didn't want the $80 backpacks...lol East coast doesn't start until around labor day
daviss: oh ok
alt: if he was born in 1921 he wouldn't be registering for the WW I draft in 1917-1918 yatah
3rdthawkins: go to this site to order ssa yatah http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm scroll all the way down to Make Your Request Online. go to •Social Security Number Application (Form SS-5) of a deceased person. You can use online Form SSA-711 . and click on the SSA-711 link, it will take you to a page where you can fill out the information for your grandfather
yatah: i Name: Edgal Quilla Birth: date - location Residence: Calhoun, South Carolina Other: location that is my gg grandpa
alt: perhaps his father, your great-grandfather may be on the WW I draft registrations yatah
Seventies Soulchild: I have to run. Y'all have a wonderful afternoon.
daviss: please dont
3rdthawkins: I don't have ancestry yatah, not subscribed to it, you will have to go to the library to see it
alt: later Seventies Soulchild
yatah: oh ok
daviss: oh she left lol cat has fierybug08's tongue or would it be fingers
yatah: i have one but lost one suck for me
daviss: yatah are your kids in school now
yatah: yea but juat last baBY and my pre school at school now
daviss: oh ok, thats good that school has started folks I am gonna run now. Need to speed up on some things before Angela's webnar
3rdthawkins: okd aviss
yatah: how cost pay for ancestry ?
3rdthawkins: daviss lol
fierybug08: hey...sorry i left for a minute
alt: later daviss
daviss: that means I have to eat lunch earlt too lol later
3rdthawkins: don't know yatah, they change it every now and again, you will have to check and see best thing is go to the library
yatah: oh ok ok
fierybug08: yeah...go to the library. You can send email to yourself the files of your searches
alt: for my subscription to Ancestry I pay 155.00 per year yatah
alt: yep, yikes LOL
fierybug08: if i get FTM, how do I add Ancestry linkes to the database? Do I have to be a paid member?
alt: but I like the ability to search 24/7 here in my home.
yatah: wish free lol
alt: I'm not sure how Ancestry works with FTM fierybug08
3rdthawkins: well, Ancestry would have to get it for free yatah, and the places they get it from won't allow it they order the record and have to pay for it, charging you is the business of how they pay for the records
fierybug08: okay. i think i will have to just visit NARA in DC regularly. Better do it before it gets too cold
yatah: once get free right after that no free
3rdthawkins: yes yatah, unless you have different credit card numbers......one thing is go to wal-mart or somewhere that sales money cards, activate it, put some money on them, and use the number to get free access to Ancestry
alt: but you can always get the 14 day free trial memberships to ancestry.. not sure how they check to see if you've used the free trial before.
3rdthawkins: same credit card number alt
fierybug08: oh, i always thought it was tied to the email address?
alt: right 3rdthawkins, I know they ask for a credit card # even on their free trial.
yatah: oh ok
3rdthawkins: I think I got a whole month free because I use one card, and then activated it where wal-mart sent me a permanent card (I was using the temporary one), and so I got an extra two weeks for the new number they didn't charge me, I thought they would, but I think they gave me free trial for both cards
yatah: i need find dead cer of josephine darby she died around 1949 i keep try look
3rdthawkins: well you all, gonna go, yatah, order that SSA for your grandfather, and so some research for his sibings, you may have to order records for them also, somebody record can/will give info that someone else's record doesn't so some-I mean Do Some research for her grandpa's siblings her-your
alt: later y'all
fierybug08: okay everybody. I got to run. nice chatting. See ya later.
yatah: ok i work on grandpa's older brother luther after that