2011-06-18 IVEY family research
alt: hello James Ivey, how are you this evening?
James Ivey: Great alt how ab Great alt how abt you?
alt: doing fine thanks, guess we're early.
James Ivey: Yes a little
alt: is this your 1st time in AfriGeneas chat?
James Ivey: Yes
alt: then welcome.
James Ivey: Thanks
alt: I've been seeing Ivey message in the Forums, Just saw one before I came in tonite.
James Ivey: Oh really? Is there a new one?
alt: Yes, looked like a census record and a WW I draft registration record
James Ivey: Ok is the WWI for Jones?
seventies soulchild: Hello James Ivey and alt
alt: I think so Hello seventies soulchild , how are ya?
James Ivey: Hi Seventies soulchild
seventies soulchild: Doing well. How are y'all tonight?
James Ivey: That's good:} Great
seventies soulchild: good to hear.
alt: 1870 census for a Moses Ivey & a WW I draft record for a John Henry Ivey.
seventies soulchild: So James Ivey, what state and surnames are you researching? I'm looking at Alabama and Mississippi. My major surnames are Lanier and Callins in AL and Rounds/Washington and Thompson/Galmore in MS
James Ivey: Mine are the Ivey's primarily in the Warrenton,Ga area. A revelation though is that Moses was transported from Virginia
alt: Selma, a chatter who will probably be joining us later says that we all started out in Virginia James Ivey.
James Ivey: Oh really
alt: yep.... and when we get back far enough she is right for most of us.
James Ivey: That is interesting
alt: yes it is.
seventies soulchild: James, could your family surname also be Ivy or Ivory?
James Ivey: Yes there are different variations Ivy,Ivory,Ivey,Ivery
alt: the Moses Ivey on the 1870 census found in Warrenton, GA was born ca 1783 in Virgina.
seventies soulchild: wow he was up in age in 1870
alt: yes seventies soulchild Census says 87 y/o
James Ivey: Right. He was 87
alt: so he was born right after the Rev War ended,
seventies soulchild: so I presume 1870 is the only census he appears on. Are there any other census taken by the state perhaps in 1866 that he may have appeared on?
James Ivey: Right, is there an 1866 census?
seventies soulchild: Well it depends on the state. Some did take censuses right after the CW. certain places in MS and in AL did. I don't want to confuse you, but it may be something worth looking into. The local censuses would've been taken between the federal census years. evenin' vkn
vkn: Howdy doody all
James Ivey: No that isn't confusing that could be helpful did GA have something similiar?
alt: hello vkn, how be's ya this evening?
James Ivey: Hi VKN
seventies soulchild: vkn would be the person you'd ask about GA records, James Ivey
vkn: alt James Ivey you made it
James Ivey: Yes I did
vkn: Congrats you are in the room with some of the best in the world
James Ivey: I am glad to be in good company
alt: Now that the Forum has got James Ivey back to 1870 in Warren Co., GA there are whole sets of records for him to research during the 1850-1870 tome period in GA.
seventies soulchild: Ok starting today, I will be blogging daily until I take my research trip to Mississippi
vkn: You see alt and seventies your fame is out in front of ya
alt: 1850-1860 Slave Schedule, Freedman's Bureau records, etc.
seventies soulchild: lol oh really now... lol Y'all know the url http://thefamilygriot.blogspot.com
alt: and the how this Moses Ivey may have gotten to GA from VA and when.
vkn: Yes that Moses IVEY looks promising
seventies soulchild: Also Happy Juneteenth everyone!
vkn: Juneteenth happy to all
James Ivey: How fitting to have this chat on this day,ditto
seventies soulchild: James Ivey, do you have access to heritagequest?
vkn: In fact Warren county is full of IVEY and is a prime spot for community genealogy James
James Ivey: I wasn't familiar with that one
seventies soulchild: hmmm well since you mentioned that vkn, do you think that there is a good chance that James will find the last known slaveholder?
vkn: Without a doubt seventies
seventies soulchild: good. James Ivey keep us updated. Would love to hear more about your Ivey's.
James Ivey: Will do. Is the slave schedules the best resource?
vkn: James do you have your findings recorded in any software via genealogy
James Ivey: Not yet but I plan on doing it
alt: a must do/have James Ivey re: genealogy software package
seventies soulchild: Well slave era research is different. If you can get access to private inventories you may have a good chance at identifying some of your folks.
vkn: James Ivey prolly the best resource is listing all of the members of your family [not living] and their relations to you and to focus on their death documentation
alt: for maintaining your findings in an 'orderly fashion'.
seventies soulchild: Check wills, deeds, tax rolls.
alt: exactly as vkn states.... work your Ivey family lines back to 1870 on family group sheets which a software package will help you to develop.
vkn: James Ivey prolly the best resource is listing all of the members of your family [not living] and their relations to you and to focus on their death documentation then interview family members then begin the census search from 1930 backwards
James Ivey: I see. I will definitely look at those resources. I have pulled my great grandfather's death certificate
alt: wonderful start... your grt-grandfather.... his birth & death years?
James Ivey: the last known family member that knew info passed last yr but I videotaped her in an interview a yr before she passed. She personally knew Jones and Rial
vkn: and ask any question on the board James and one of many people reading will respond. There is no dumb question. The only dumb question is the one unasked.
seventies soulchild: Are you just starting out James Ivey?
alt: he is probably on the 1930 census and that record will aid you in working your way back to earlier years. along with his death certificate especiailly if it lists his parents.
vkn: seventies soulchild James Ivey has a thread on surnames
seventies soulchild: oh okay
James Ivey: No, I actively started looking in 2004, no old heads knew their own grandfather's name. Jones's parents names were listed on the dc but I have constantly hit roadblocks. This is a great help.
seventies soulchild: oh that thread! lol
James Ivey: what are you thoughts on rial?
seventies soulchild: Sorry about all of your troubles with the oral history.
alt: Jones,, is that Jones ivey?
vkn: James who is John Henry IVEY ? I saw a draft registration for him for WWI
James Ivey: I am not sure who this person is unless he is the cousin Henry or rather Cousin Cat's (the knowledgeable relative that passed) grandfather that moved to New Orleans later
seventies soulchild: Well keep on looking
James Ivey: Jones is his first name name rather
seventies soulchild: In the meantime you all have a good evening.
vkn: okies seventies
James Ivey: Goodnight 70's
alt: what are the dates for your grt grandfather's birth & death? the one whose death record you have.
seventies soulchild: Best of luck James Ivey.
James Ivey: he was born may 14,1882 and died dec 22,1958 how would i trace any of moses' children?
alt: great 1882, he should be on the 1900 census as an 18-20 y/o. possibly unmarried and still living with his parents, or at least in the same community as them. ah, hello Selma, welcome Home
James Ivey: That's the strange thing he doesn't show up until 1910 and married
Selma: Good evening alt, vkn and James Ivey
James Ivey: Good evening
alt: oh, he's there James, we just have to find him LOL
James Ivey: Good point
alt: his given name is Jones, right?
James Ivey: Yes Well as far as I know
Selma: Where was this James Ivey living..where did you find him in 1910 in what state and county?
alt: and that could be a transcription error.... even Jonas, John or something similar to Jones.
James Ivey: He is
alt: we're in Warren County, GA Selma birth year 1882... death year 1958, right James Ivey? wb James Ivey LOL
vkn: heyyyyyyyyy and welcome home Selma
Selma: Samford was great will give details tomorrow..Got home late last night only had 6 hours of sleep last night..up by 6 AM this morning Spent 12 hours traveling,or actually sitting in airports...
alt: anxiously awaiting your report Selma.
James Ivey: Sorry abt that,he is listed as Janes Dory rather than Jones Ivey is Norwood in Warren County
alt: Hello rcs
vkn: heyyyyyy rcs guess you got my facebook message lol
rcs: good evening all
James Ivey: Hi
Selma: Hi rcs..good to see you, I was wondering about you with all the awful weather out your way
vkn: wow Selma some traveling
Selma: James Ivey, So on the 1910 census he is married and listed as James Dory
alt: hang on to the thought that he might be the John Henry Ivey that the Forum has posted.
James Ivey: Janes Dory rather than Jones Ivey that's is an interesting thought
Selma: and on the 1920 and 1930 census..he is listed how?
James Ivey: Jones Ivey, it is spelled correctly
alt: this John Ivey has a Norwood R.F.D. address but birth year is 1889... he could also possibly be a realtive/brother of your grt grandfather.
James Ivey: I agree,this John Henry is worth looking into
alt: do you have Ancestry.com James Ivey, or access to it?
Selma: 1882...1889..in genealogicial research..that is not a great difference
alt: right Selma
James Ivey: Yes I do have access to ancestry and you are right the difference is very small
alt: okay. we'll search ancestry for AA males in Warren Co., GA born between 1880- 1890 named Ivey on ancestry for census years 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930
James Ivey: ok
alt: and the Norwood or Warrenton areas.
James Ivey: yes This has really been helpful
Selma: and when you look make sure you look at all the folks on the page because this is the community in which they lived..
alt: we should find him and/or his family & siblings w/ parents in the 1900 census first????
Selma: Not only the one page but a couple before and after...although at the beginning you might not make connections..you find that there arelater on
James Ivey: I'll search it real hard
alt: so will I .... LOL
James Ivey: thanks lol
vkn: (James Selma is highlighting the community research mentioned earlier)
Selma: There will be times..that you have to follow other folks to find your folks..it is important to know and understand the community in which they lived
James Ivey: You're right. I would gather the community can tell a lot
Selma: Should I really swamp you..
alt: Was you father & grandfather also born in Warren Co., GA?
James Ivey: Yes
Selma: If you don't know already, get a map, you what to know the counties that surround the county you search
alt: and their given names are?
James Ivey: my grandfather was Ralph Jones Ivey he is listed as Jones in the censuses, my father's name was James Ralph Ivey, Sr.
alt: okay thanks
James Ivey: I never thought abt a map
Selma: Art give him the link to the map site...
alt: james, Selma is the lady that will tell you, all roads lead to Virginia. LOL
Selma: Counties lines change over time...you have to understand the basic lay of the land.. I have only had 6 hours of sleep since yesterday morning when I got up at 6..so I am on overdrive... LOL
vkn: niters to you selma
alt: laters Selma
James Ivey: Thanks Selma get some rest
Selma: Oh I am not going yet..just telling you if I was talking I would be going a mile a minute..LOL
vkn: tee hee hee
alt: oh, okay Selma
James Ivey: Oh,
vkn: rcs jump in and I am so glad you are safe
rcs: I don't jump much anymore
Selma: But you still type...
vkn: oops did your knees get capped rcs
rcs: just slowed down
Selma: Sorry to hear that rcs
rcs: Have to stop and smell the roses
vkn: James with Alt on the assist side and Selma on the other side and with what you know you are good to go
James Ivey: I am much more equipped. Thanks to all for your expertise
Selma: How many children did he have? When does GA start keeping birth records?
vkn: about 1910 legally selma
James Ivey: He had 10,they were primarily in the family bible and I did see them all in the censuses
vkn: and do you have death records or obits for each
Selma: Add to you list..that you want to see if you can get the official records..they were probably filmed and available at FHC..
James Ivey: ok
Selma: The male children probably registered for WWII draft registration
James Ivey: I only have obits for 4
alt: James Ivey, I suggest you post on AfriGeneas what you've given us tonite.... names, birth/death dates, family, etc. the more eyes looking at this the better off we'll be.
vkn: Do you have a library card James
James Ivey: yes
Selma: You want to read up on the history of the area...
James Ivey: will do
alt: I'm looking at all kinds of possibles on the 1900 census for Warren Co., Ga males.
James Ivey: oh really
alt: born between 1880-1890
vkn: Terrific alt
James Ivey: THANKS ALT
Selma: vkn..when does GA start recording marriages?
alt: and with the names of siblings it might be easier to determine the right family
vkn: pre 1870 selma I will need to find first date
James Ivey: Jones' siblings names are a sticking point
Selma: James..do you have a marriage record for James Ivey?
vkn: James what do you mean by sticking point
James Ivey: I don't have any of Jones' siblings names. Jones and rosie were married in 1904 they were married 10/16/1904 according to the certiicate in the family bible
alt: I"m gonna check out for the night.... hope to see you in chat tomorrow James Ivey cause I'm gonna be working on this in the AM. LOL
Selma: Is the marriage info from the Bible..or a marriage document recorded in the courthouse?
James Ivey: thanks alt goodnight
James Ivey: It was in the bible I'm not sure if it is in the courthouse
vkn: Search for marriage records in GA
James Ivey: i'll look at that
vkn: Birth and death started 1919
Selma: Don't know if I have a subscription to that site
vkn: James we will be here tomorrow at 11:30 can you join us then
Selma: Yep..time for me to go too..
James Ivey: i'll make it happen
Selma: have a good evening, coming back and visit..
Selma: Good night folks..
James Ivey: good night
vkn: Niters to all and be well rcs
rcs: good night
James Ivey: good night