jhonora: Morning 3rdthawkins
3rdthawkins: hey jhonora hey SS
jhonora: Morning seventies soulchild
seventies soulchild: hey doing my hair . . . brb ok I'm back... how is everyone doing this morning? jhonora? 3rdthawkins?
jhonora: Doing well, same I hope. Any new discoveries?
3rdthawkins: doing good, a few discoveries nothing major, just getting to fill in some blanks hello ProDru brb
ProfessorDru: hello 3rdthawkins and jhonora.
Khathu: good morning
ProfessorDru: hello khathu and free
freeaainnc: hello all
ProfessorDru: alt in da house!!!!!!
Khathu: hello alt
alt: Hello All, 3rd, free, jhonora, Khathu, Dru
freeaainnc: hi alt
ProfessorDru: this morning I discovered a USCT who is possibly a brother in law of James Fields
alt: jhonora, what can you tell me about the Freedman's Aid Society in NO ca 1915-1920?
3rdthawkins: back...........hello alt and free and Khathu
alt: hello 3rdthawkins
ProfessorDru: alt, do you have usct ancestors?
freeaainnc: hi 3rd
alt: Khathu, what kind of attendance was there at your presentation yesterday? Yes I do ProfessorDru,
ProfessorDru: ok khathu, what did you present on yesterday?
Khathu: there were 50 people in attendance
alt: that's a 'nice' sized crowd Khathu..
ProfessorDru: 50 is a good number
Khathu: I conducted a presentation on Slave Era Research at the Central Maryland Chapter AAHG
ProfessorDru: oh, that was you on Angela's video.
3rdthawkins: hello Selma
freeaainnc: hi selma
ProfessorDru: Selma in da house!!!!
alt: hello Selma,, how are ya this morning?
Selma: Doing OK..got the little darlin's so might be in and out
Selma: Dru..you have been mighty busy this Am
ProfessorDru: Selma, as you can see I'm on a roll--I know I sent you and Angela a lot of emails this morning. lol
Khathu: okay......i didn't realize she recorded it
Selma: Yes...I noiced..is Madison the one married to a Fields daughter
ProfessorDru: It's a small clip on youtube I'll find the link in a minute
alt: we get to see Khathu ... live & in color? LOL
Selma: In this day and age Khathu...its best to believe that you are being taped at all times..including falling in the fountain at a Mall texting onyour cell phone
freeaainnc: lol selma
ProfessorDru: that's not nice Selma. lol lol lol
Selma: But its true..the woman is suing now..
ProfessorDru: I saw her on the news
3rdthawkins: what is she suing for again? was it no one helped or something?
Selma: Plus Dru taught folks how to do all kinds of things with their cell phones at a Genealogy conference. The security guard who released the video was fired
ProfessorDru: yes, because no one came to her aid as well as them posting video on youtube
alt: listening to Khathu as I type
Khathu: i went to her site and saw the clip
freeaainnc: I was surprised about that, folks just kept on walking like nothing happened
3rdthawkins: ok, the security guard and posting it on youtube I can understand as far as firing and suing them for tham, but no one came to her aid? I mean, who is she exactly suing for that?
freeaainnc: I mean they didn't even look in her direction, wow, talk about desensitized
ProfessorDru: right free, thankfully she was not seriously hurt
Selma: Interesting discussion on CSpan3..on Could the Civil War have been Avoided
3rdthawkins: all wars can be avoided, I think
freeaainnc: good point 3rd. I mean I had a major fall on campus when I was an undergrad and no one came to my aid either. not like there was anyone specific to sue lol
ProfessorDru: that's interesting selma
freeaainnc: khathu, what books were you displaying in that clip?
Selma: Yes, well if this one hadn't happened we would all still be singing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot"
alt: probably Selma, but I'm glad it wasn't.
ProfessorDru: I think the problem is that the guard witnessed the fall and did nothing except laugh and post video on youtube right selma I can't begin to imagine.
freeaainnc: yeah, I'd be pretty angry at the guard too, but didn't realize it was the guard to who taped that I'm deaf so I can't hear what was being said on that video
ProfessorDru: for real free?
3rdthawkins: yeah, the guard is the one most responsible
alt: Frederick Douglass and the other abolitionist were 'gleeful' when SC secceded from the Union and the Ft. was fired upon.
Khathu: africans in the americans, the history of leon county, texas, from slavery to freedom, and the black family in slavery and freedom
freeaainnc: Dru - for real at which thing I said? LOL but yeah - not sure which u are saying that about, but yeah
ProfessorDru: khathu, all the books you showed looked interesting.
alt: is that the title for your book Khathu?
Khathu: yes alt
freeaainnc: oh, ok khathu. I have all of those except the one on texas
ProfessorDru: which title?
Khathu: also i mentioned finding a place called home and discovering your african american ancestors
alt: Khathu, in your slave era research do find find many differences by ,,, region, time-frame, etc.?
freeaainnc: I think we have those 2 books at the library where I work
Khathu: there are definitely differences based on region and time period
freeaainnc: I know we have the book Black Roots (Tony Boroughs?) and a few others on finding African American roots
Khathu: especially in terms of the type of records that were produced
alt: I would think so Khathu
Khathu: and how those records were housed
freeaainnc: I'm in the process of picking out books right now for our February display table African American History theme
3rdthawkins: hello risha
trisha: good morning everyone
ProfessorDru: hello trisha
3rdthawkins: oops, Trisha
alt: Hello Trisha
freeaainnc: (our= State Lib. of North Carolina genealogy room) hi Trisha
trisha: how is everyone today?
Selma: Mornin trisha
alt: Finding A Place Called Home has become a "classic"
freeaainnc: and I'm trying to really push for afrigeneas to be linked to our desktop for the public computers
ProfessorDru: alt, yes that an excellent book
freeaainnc: it used to be linked, but sometime within the past 2 years the link disappeared and now we have a new boss who doesn't want to add it back again
alt: and after so many years it still can withstand the changing times in research techniques
freeaainnc: but I just discovered this week we have 2 of the same links for African American resources so I'm pushing to replace one of the links with afrigeneas keep ur fingers crossed lol
ProfessorDru: ok free
alt: fingers crossed
freeaainnc: sorry, went off on a tangent
Selma: What are they linked to now
trisha: good luck
freeaainnc: I can't remember, just a sec and let me see if I can pull it up
alt: not really freeaainnc, AfriGeneas needs to be 'sold' as the "standard bearer", these newer sites with their 'flash & dash' have begun to capture the minds of folks recently interested in AA Genealogy.
freeaainnc: no, can't find it on here. we have 2 categories of links, genealgoy and history. There is a link for a website that is more history related than genealogy and it's under both categories which it shouldn't be I'm in charge of fixing broken links and this week just noticed it was under both categories, I think it was a slavery site from UNC-Greensboro, which is really good, but it's more history
alt: course that' just my opinion on AfriGeneas and the 'competition'
freeaainnc: boss asked me to give her a couple of links we could possibly replace the one under genealogy with so I gave her 3 sites and my opinion on each agree alt
alt: anything new with you trisha?
freeaainnc: hi daviss!@
daviss: helllo everyone!
ProfessorDru: hey vicky
alt: Hello daviss... send me some HEAT LOL LOL
ProfessorDru: me too lol
3rdthawkins: hello daviss
trisha: well alt, other than my back going out...nothing much. :-(
freeaainnc: ooh, sorry to hear that Trisha
alt: oh no, back problems ain't no fun trisha, wishing you the best
trisha: what about you, any interesting happening in your research efforts?
daviss: its cold here around 54 degrees so you might want to change your mind about me sending heat lol lol
trisha: thanks free, thank goodness for pain meds...lol. I get the xray results tomorrow
ProfessorDru: I found person of interest on ancestry as a USCT. I did initial research on his regiment. Where do I go from here to find more about his him and his military service?
alt: try -2 daviss, so yes send HEAT
trisha: thanks alt
daviss: ok after the Jets win I will lol
freeaainnc: daviss I was just thinking it's only in the 40s here, but we are a lot warmer than the northern states lol
3rdthawkins: in other words she won't send it :}
freeaainnc: lol daviss
ProfessorDru: looks like there's not heat to send from vicky's neck of the woods.
alt: ProfessorDru, have you checked out the CWSS site and then the regiment history of your ancestor... after that, then look for service & pension records from NARA.
daviss: did you pick out someone that is from your area to adopt Professor Dru?
freeaainnc: daviss where do u live again?
ProfessorDru: yes, I checked the CWSS site. How can I find i there is a service or pension record. He was enlisted for 3 year. BTW he is not my ancestor, but kin to the Fields family whom I'm researching.
daviss: I physically live in Phx Ariz free.
freeaainnc: wow, I'd think it would be warmer there
alt: go to th eNARA site for how to secure the service information
ProfessorDru: yes vicky, I found this morning who is a brother in law of James A. Fields, owner of the historic house whom I'm researching. thanks alt
alt: try Bennie McRae's site for the how-to's ProfessorDru
ProfessorDru: ok, alt, I'll take a look at Bennie's site. This person of interest, Madison Lewis, was in the first USCT.
daviss: I am going to adopt someone also ProDr. I am looking for someone who stayed in Texas after the war. Hard to find someone who was actually a Texasn
Khathu: have a great day everyone
daviss: bye khathu
ProfessorDru: great vicky
3rdthawkins: what's all the adopting someone about???
daviss: to study their history 3rd
3rdthawkins: why, what's the point?
alt: 3rdthawkins,, took a look at ancesty's census records for LUM.. the surname has been in the US since 1810.
ProfessorDru: United States Colored Troops for those of us who don't have an ancestor who enlisted
trisha: hmmmm, interesting alt.
daviss: I am doing it because I like interesting things. and besides it may help someone
3rdthawkins: so you're studying them just because you don't have an ancestor who fought??
ProfessorDru: 3rd, cause Angela told us so. lol lol
daviss: and just what Pro Dru sqaid lol said
3rdthawkins: Ahh, That explains it then, I should have known she's the master mind behind it
trisha: lol, Dru
freeaainnc: daviss, that is why I do the research I do - it's interesting to me and I hope it will help others
ProfessorDru: seriously in celebrating the 150 anniversry of the CW, some of us want to expand our research horizons.
daviss: I have no idea if I had an ancestor who fought 3rd
trisha: I got excited, I got some folks I would GLADLY volunteer to be researched
3rdthawkins: yeah alt, I have seen that, I'm trying to see how it reached to S.C., guess I will have to do a serious in depth study and research on it
trisha: not in military records though..
AYWalton: Good morning all.
freeaainnc: hi AY!
trisha: good morning AYWalton
ProfessorDru: Angela in da house!!! you must have heard us talking about you. lol
AYWalton: hi 3rd
3rdthawkins: It's enough trying to research my own people, not somebody I don't even know who they are and dont' care about
daviss: hello to you AYWalton
freeaainnc: I've never really checked to see if any of the folks I research were in the USCT
AYWalton: greetings alt, daviss, freeaainnc, trisha
alt: Hi AYWalton
AYWalton: ProfessorDru is in da house!
ProfessorDru: understood 3rd, but to each their own.
AYWalton: have I missed something ProfessorDru?
alt: It's really as much about 'broadening' you research techniques 3rdthawkins
ProfessorDru: I am involved in a local research project now and for now this is more interesting.
freeaainnc: see 3rd for me, I've been doing research for over 20 years now. I've basically gotten as far on my family as I can without do research with original records in other states - which I can't afford lol
3rdthawkins: ok, whatever alt
ProfessorDru: Vicky and I were talking about adopting an USCT.
3rdthawkins: to me it's just being bored and looking for something to do
ProfessorDru: 3rd asked why and I said 'cause Angela said so.' lol
AYWalton: I see, and some are putting you down for choosing to expand what you do.
alt: yeah 3rdthawkins, whatever.... it is about researching the AA community for MOST of us.
3rdthawkins: wb Selma
ProfessorDru: as I said 3rd, to each his own.
daviss: IMHO 3rd others have helped you and they have not done it because they were bored
AYWalton: Just do what you do and as the bored say--------whatever. YOU know what it means and everyone cannot absorb the value of gleaning knowledge from your activities.
freeaainnc: right daviss. I mean I'm definitely not bored with my research on fpoc in NC
AYWalton: and daviss, you learn from those experiences---you learn from those who are non-chalant about your help and move on. Many want to take and don't appreciate the work that was made by those who helped.
freeaainnc: I actually find it very fascinating to see how they all interacted with each other and others outside the community
daviss: heyyy Selma!
AYWalton: just move on and keep the energy positive---besides others come anyway, because they appreciate what you do, even those they shrug it off. oh before I forget--- I posted a blog with video and a couple of images from Khathu's presentation.
Selma: Heck all folks should thank Barnetta White for being bored for 10 years and digging out all the Cohabitation records for NC
ProfessorDru: 3rd, for me my local research project is meaningful because I grew up in this area. The Fields family research is talking me into a totally new area than the research of my ancestors.
daviss: so are you saying that my positive energy will secure a win for the JETs lol
Selma: Thank goodness for all the BORED folks who I have benefited from their BOREDOM
AYWalton: we should thank Alex Haley from being bored with folks that were not in his family. He wasnt related to Fiddler either.
freeaainnc: LOL so true Selma! and since we have those books at the library, I've seen first hand in just the past 8 months on my job how her books have helped at least a dozen people!
ProfessorDru: lol vicky
daviss: ok ok slapping my hand
freeaainnc: lol daviss
AYWalton: Ignorance is boredom. Those who choose to address their boredom by asking unasked questions are the treasures in our midst, and the deserve to be applauded. others will sit on the side, nodding off in boredom, not even realizing that someone unrelated to them will reveal more facts to enhance their knowledge. But that's ok, because what we do is far beyond collecting names of just our own families.
Selma: Yes, Khathu just heard about him being on video when he was here earlier
AYWalton: if that is all we do, then we can just buy one of those bogus books with lots of family names and then wave it around as being YOUR family!
ProfessorDru: I saw the video on youtube. Which blog did you post on?
AYWalton: the ones who truly know better will just smile, shrug and say "whatever" knowing that the name collector and not one who appreciates FACTS well he/she just does not know any better!!
trisha: You guys have a great day... time for me to make a move.
AYWalton: Father forgive them......for they know how little they know and how silly what they say can be.
daviss: true to that re; waving around as your own
AYWalton: ProfessorDru the post is on myancestorsname.blogspot.com
ProfessorDru: So Angela I'm not sure if you saw my numerous emails from this morning, but I've adopted a USCT.
AYWalton: I have a picture of him lecturing as well as a tiny video clip. he did a great job. and one of his points-----look at the people in the area!
Selma: Did you do it with your cell phone AY?
AYWalton: If you don't you miss your OWN family.
ProfessorDru: the books looked interesting.
AYWalton: now I did it with my digital camera.
freeaainnc: thanks for the link AY
AYWalton: not my camcorder, but with my digital. most digitals have a video feature.
daviss: a few more inches and he would be taller than the top of the door ( Khathu)
AYWalton: of course I could ignored it because he was not talking about MY folks----but I see the value of other's stories.
alt: it was nice to 'see & hear" Khathu live & in color LOL
Selma: I told you he is 8 feet tall...LOL
freeaainnc: lol selma
Selma: Met him at National AAHGS
ProfessorDru: who me, Angela? My own family will always be my first love, but throughout my 16 years of research, I've occasionally kicked them to the curb and adopted someone else. lool
AYWalton: all such such stories are valuable, and if one cannot see it, then they are blinded by their own lack of insight, lack of intuitiveness and lack of true interest in history. No, not you, ProfessorDru. I speak to those who find the stories from th e community of their ancestors to be boring.
AYWalton: They are the ones who lose when guided by----hey he ain't related to me and I don't care.
Selma: That being said AY...if you go to the Archives this week see if he applied for a Penstion
AYWalton: Don't care----and this might be the one who holds other details about your folks. But don't bother---it's too boring. I KNOW you get it, ProfessorDru.
ProfessorDru: My Fields family research is also helping me to discover the history of the university where I work.
AYWalton: I love that!
alt: that's it AYWalton .. some folks are into just the genealogy and not the history of their family.
ProfessorDru: Now when I walk the grounds, I see things in a whole new light.
AYWalton: Yes, I saw the emails on my phone and I am going to check on that one for you, ProfessorDru. and their is a difference. and a list of who begot who begot who----tells you very little.
Selma: Names on a page with no context
ProfessorDru: Madison Lewis was also a Freedman's Bureau bank depositer.
AYWalton: oh that's fantastic!
ProfessorDru: now I have a reason to learn about so many new records.
Selma: See aren't you glad I told them you would do this presentation for the Hunt for Hampton History.. LOL
AYWalton: and nothing is more boring than names with no stories to tell----and people had stories that shaped their lives. Good stories, bad stories---everyone has them.
ProfessorDru: Looking forward to your visit in April, Angela, so we can hit the road. lol Selma, you me US, right?
AYWalton: ProfessorDru, was your guy in the 1st Cavalry?
AYWalton: 1st US Colored?
Selma: Yes, AY..you andme I meant yes Dru
AYWalton: Then there is good news------------he DID file a pension! looks like I shall be off to the archives to get it!
AYWalton: Madison Lewis, is that the correct name?
AYWalton: He filed for and received a pension!!!!
daviss: I heard you way over her Professor Dru lol
ProfessorDru: lol vicky
ProfessorDru: Where did you find that info, Angela?
AYWalton: Selma I will come down a day early and we are gonna do the Hampton Cemetery, and other things in the area. I want to document the USCTs.
ProfessorDru: how much does it cost, angela, to get a copy of pension records?
Selma: Oh jeez...you might have to come down 2 days early
AYWalton: these days it is about $65. lol and I would love to see the Plesant Shade cemetery.
ProfessorDru: BTW, Madison's name is also on the AA CW memorial
Selma: Does the Fields family know that Dru
AYWalton: Just want to see it, I am curious if any folks in VA were part of the Mosaic Templars
ProfessorDru: that would be great, Angela. Hopefully by then I'll know where Fields grave is located. You should also visit the Fields House.
alt: you bet. I think there are about 1,000 usct's buried at in Hampaton Nat'l cemetery
ProfessorDru: I'm not sure if they know about Madison or not Selma
AYWalton: I would love to see that house. Is it in Hampton or NewportNews?
ProfessorDru: I'll let the owner Saundra Cherry know that you will be in town newport news
alt: ProfessorDru, I think there is a grave locator for folks buried in ALL National VA cemeteries.
ProfessorDru: ok alt
AYWalton: is there a cemetery at Ft. Monroe?
Selma: We will have to take you to the Fort in the moat Angela
ProfessorDru: not sure angela
alt: no ProfessorDru, that was an 'exchange' that has been needed for quite sometime.
ProfessorDru: I know. hehehehehe
AYWalton: I look forward to it.
freeaainnc: well, that wasn't the purpose of what we were saying to hurt his feelings or anything. Hope he knows that
ProfessorDru: I told him several times to each his own. And I meant what I said. lol
AYWalton: some people are in their own tight world and THEY want to hurt the feelings of others. don't worry about it, free.
ProfessorDru: hopefully he will expand his horizons some day.
Selma: Ok folks...gotta run
daviss: bye sel
Selma: Talk to you all later
freeaainnc: oops, bye selma lol I was looking away
AYWalton: ahy es, there is Mariah---who is hiding somewhere in Texas from daviss.
ProfessorDru: I'm extremely excited about my new findings this morning. Probably spent too much time online, but it was extremely successful.
daviss: lol lol lol
ProfessorDru: Angela, does NARA do pension files in digital format?
AYWalton: they will be doing it soon.
freeaainnc: that is great Dru
AYWalton: and charge you $65 for it.
ProfessorDru: ok, when you go, do you have to pay to look at the files?
AYWalton: Oh a tip----when you have a file----the best thing to do, is also to follow the witnesses---they vouched for the soldier and they were part of the same community.
freeaainnc: 65?? wow
ProfessorDru: right Angela, I learned that from you.
AYWalton: I just looked at the Hampton National cemetery on Find a Grave and I see that only 27 graves are on the list. greetings jhonora!
ProfessorDru: wb jhonora. you missed all the action. lol
jhonora: Hello daviss, freeaainnc
AYWalton: so we have a lot of work to do, ladies.
jhonora: Hey AYWalton!
AYWalton: Cemetery stomping---here we come!
jhonora: Action, ProfDru?
ProfessorDru: lol angela
AYWalton: me? lil ole me?????????
ProfessorDru: Discussion with 3rd about why we should not just concentrate on researching our own ancestors--why we also need to do community reseach, etc. Then angela got on her soapbox and preached. lol lol
AYWalton: can I get an Amen somewhere in here?
jhonora: Oh of course. I'm glad the Rev. Dr. Elder AYW gave her the sermon
ProfessorDru: And Rev. Sister Dr. Selma did too. lol
AYWalton: now that's what I'm talkin' bout! sometimes ya gotta say somethin 'cause sometimes folks need to hear somethin'!
freeaainnc: and considering 90% of my research now is on fpoc in NC, I whole heartedly agreed oh, and I'm not a descendant of fpoc so I'm not related to any of them
ProfessorDru: I only made a statement about my local research project and he wanted to know 'what' the point'. So I told him and then it was on!
jhonora: I just went to a meeting yesterday where people were whining about not knowing what record sources there were/or what they contain. I told 'em that if they can google carnival parades and restaurants then they can google our local repositories
ProfessorDru: me, vicky, and free were the sistas of the church and alt was Deacon. lol lol angela
freeaainnc: lol AY
ProfessorDru: lol jhonora
freeaainnc: lol dru
daviss: heard that jhonora
jhonora: I'm sure alt gave some good "well"s and "yass sirs"
ProfessorDru: lol jhonors
AYWalton: lol well I have to run folks, off to a computer show. Want to look at some of their toys.
freeaainnc: oh, but I did find out something interesting on my own family last night, sad
AYWalton: hopefully I won't buy anything, am just in a looking mode. take care and have a good day.
ProfessorDru: what was than free? that
freeaainnc: apparently my grandfather was not the 1st child, they had a stillborn 1 year before he was born - premature birth caused by an accident of some kind the mnother was in 1914
freeaainnc: only reason I found out was b/c ancestry has the death certs for NC online from 1909-1975. I was looking for a dc for the mom and came across that
ProfessorDru: I also found that one of my great grandmother's had still born--so that would make 7 pregnancies instead of the 6 the family knew about. good free
daviss: gotta run folks take care
ProfessorDru: Those online DCs are great. Gotta run.
jhonora: Gotta run
freeaainnc: I was never told about that so I'm wondering if anyone else knew about it? maybe since it was the first child, they didn't share that info? ok, gotta go too. bye alt hopefully see u tomorrow in lunch bunch
statustray: Hey there alt... how u doing today?