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2011-01-20 Lunch Bunch~Thursday

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Start: 12:04:22
End: 13:23:36
Chatters: 3rdthawkins, alt, AYWalton, daviss, ProfessorDru, Selma, Seventies Soulchild, vkn

daviss: hello 3rd!

3rdthawkins: hey daviss

daviss: how's it going?

3rdthawkins: good daviss. You know what, I was looking over an obit for my grandfather's youngest bro, and I discovered something that I forgot about. He was apart of the Masons also. He was the Worshipful Master of Excelsior for Mason Lodge #3 of Hartford, CT crazy

daviss: we sure do overlook some things dont we

3rdthawkins: yep, never paid attention to it cause I never knew what it was or cared for it hello alt

alt: hello 3rdthawkins & daviss, how are y'all today?

daviss: cared as in not knowing what it was or not cared because it was the Masons heyy alt! thanks for the email alt this morning. Debbie Abbott was sure thrilled I could tell

3rdthawkins: both daviss doing good alt

daviss: can I ask why 3rd especially about Masons

alt: yes she was daviss .... the sentence about volunteers & enjoying what he does is what AfriGeneas & genealogy is all about ... IMHO :)

daviss: you are the second person I heard say that in the last month IMHO also alt :)

alt: was the 2nd person you heard it form also a 'younger' person daviss? form=from

daviss: regarding the masons alt ?

alt: yes daviss

daviss: yes

alt: I ask because folks under 40 y/o or so aren't much into joining organizations like the Masons and even the college youngsters, many of them, are not joining fraternities & sororities in the numbers of the past. could be because of the decreasing numbers of our youth in HBCU's.

3rdthawkins: just don't care for it daviss

daviss: that could be true alt regarding frats and sorors no reason huh 3rd

3rdthawkins: I'm I doing something wrong daviss? am

alt: an din the years past it was organizations like the Masons , GUOOF and other benevolent organizations that were the 'backbone' of AA community/society. din=during

daviss: no, I just wanted to know your reason for not caring for it thats all. We all have our opinions I suppose

3rdthawkins: don't want to get into it really, was just letting you know what I noticed/discovered

daviss: no problem. I did get this other fella to tell me why he did not care for the Mason and I wondered if your reasoning was along his lines

AYWalton: good afternoon, all.

alt: hope vkn get in here today.... was gonna ask her if she thought it was a good idea to open the Afrigeneas Forum up to the public for sugesstions on what the updated Beginner's Guide might include.

AYWalton: hi 3rd

daviss: hello AYWalton!

alt: hello AYWalton

AYWalton: wll hey there alt, Ms. daviss!! hope you are all well.

alt: doing fine and you..

3rdthawkins: hello AY

daviss: doing good AYWalton

Seventies Soulchild: good afternoon all

3rdthawkins: hello vkn

alt: hello Seventies Soulchild

Seventies Soulchild: hi vkn, alt daviss AYWalton, 3rd lol where's vkn?

AYWalton: hey SoulChile! she is not here.

alt: vkn, I don't see vkn in my online listing

Seventies Soulchild: Any good genealogical news? Or news in general?

3rdthawkins: you got alt jumping now lol

Seventies Soulchild: sorry 'bout that alt. 3rd is the one saying hello to vkn who's not even in here... lol

daviss: alt do you happen to have the link to the site that has the symbols of benevolent organizations. I would like to see the one with the Woodmen's (AA)

alt: always sumpin 'new' & 'good' genealog-wise Seventies Soulchild

Seventies Soulchild: :}

3rdthawkins: Nooooo, what's me wasn't Me

daviss: hi there seventies

alt: no, I don't daviss ... perhaps a google on "AA Benevolent Socieities" might be fruitful

Seventies Soulchild: Well I don't have anything to report today. just waiting waiting waiting.

3rdthawkins: hello Selma

AYWalton: Hey Ms. Selma!!!!

daviss: well now Selma! lol

Selma: Good Thursday afternoon everyone

alt: You ain't allowed in here today Selma LOL

Seventies Soulchild: Hi daviss. Hello Selma

Selma: I was suppose to go out alt...but waiting for someone.. lOL

alt: okay, in that case, pull up a chair and join us LOL

3rdthawkins: would like to know if anybody done in research in S.C. between 1880 and 1900 concerning immigrantion, Chinese immigration more specifically

alt: not me

Seventies Soulchild: no

daviss: nor I

Selma: nor I

3rdthawkins: darn! 1890 Census

Selma: There is quite a bit of literature on immigration from China to this country

alt: didn't AA Lives get a little into chinese immmigration when they were doing the thing on the astronaut Mae Jemison?

3rdthawkins: really?

Seventies Soulchild: So have you done any background general historical research on Chinese migration to SC? Or in general 3rd?

3rdthawkins: yes, googled some, seem like there were, just don't know where to look for records

Selma: Most that I have seen on building the RR's etc..

alt: and the Chines influence on the West Coast and in particular the Railroads out West and in the South.

3rdthawkins: a lot of Chinese seem to be in California, Hawaii early 1900s

alt: even earlier as far as the West coast, San Franciso area in particular.

Seventies Soulchild: Yes it would seem that would be the natural migratory pattern since China is much closer to CA and the panama canal wasn't opened up until the early 1900's

3rdthawkins: ahhh, ok, alwys wondered how they got to S.C.

Seventies Soulchild: I would presume that any chinese migration would've come over land.

3rdthawkins: to U.S. I should say

alt: In the materials I have on my 2nd ggfather who went to CA and found in the 1861 & 1868 Sacramento City directories and Census records ther are many, many Chinese listed.

Selma: Wasn't there a PBS or documentary done on Chinese in the South

Seventies Soulchild: So 3rd are you now looking for Chinese ancestry in your family?

alt: probably the same way AA's and other's got South & West, where ever Labor was required they found transportation for them.. Wagons, Rail. Waterways, etc.

3rdthawkins: yes, I think so Seventies, it has come up several times, but not sure who is Chinese,

Seventies Soulchild: ok

Selma: cheap labor atl...the same can be said for the Indians from India in the Carribbean

AYWalton: here is an article on Chinese in the American South:

alt: and there was a big travel route around the southern tip of south america in the early to mid 1800's.

AYWalton: http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/somewhere-between-black-and-white-the-chinese-in-mississippi/

Seventies Soulchild: Yes Selma, I don't want to say the "C" word in here. And from what I heard the Chinese were no better. hello ProfessorDru

ProfessorDru: hey gang

3rdthawkins: ok, thx AY hello ProDru

alt: hello ProfDru

3rdthawkins: ahhh, seeming like it's bringing back to Mississippi also AyWalton

AYWalton: ProfessorDru is in da house!

daviss: hello ProDru

ProfessorDru: angela in a house!!!!!!!!!!!!

daviss: there she is

AYWalton: Greetings, VKN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daviss: hello vkn

vkn: Howdy to all

Seventies Soulchild: lol hey vkn

alt: nice tip on the free online courses ProfessorDru

ProfessorDru: hello vee thanks alt

alt: Hello vkn, how are ya today?

Selma: Thanks for the article AY..I think I saw something on TV to maybe relating to that article

3rdthawkins: hello vkn

Selma: Afternoon dru, vkn

Seventies Soulchild: Ok I'm going to go find out what's going on around her for BHM. Talk to you all later.

ProfessorDru: Alt, did you see today's posting about free microsoft office tutorials?

vkn: partly cloudy alt lol lol

AYWalton: which article, Selma?

Selma: Chinese in Mississippi

AYWalton: oh you mean on the link, ok. you are welcome.

alt: not today ProfessorDru, but you rpost form the other day looked interesting

ProfessorDru: ok, also check out today's posting. http://findyourfolks.blogspot.com/2011/01/free-microsoft-office-software-training.html

alt: I'm not not much, if any presenting lately, but the PP courses looked interesting ProfessorDru

Selma: Hey alt..did you do your acting job yet..

ProfessorDru: Yeah, Daddy Alt, how did it go?

alt: yep, Monday for MLK Day celebration.

daviss: alt you were going to ask vkn about the Forum posting

alt: went well, had about 300 in attendence.

vkn: which one

ProfessorDru: that's great alt

alt: okay daviss thanks

vkn: 300!!!!!!!!

ProfessorDru: alt, you stole the show, uh? lol lol

alt: vkn, wondering about posting to the AfriGeneas Forum for general public comments/suggestions for the Beginners' Guide upgrade.... any thoughts from you?

vkn: Great idea alt

alt: more minds involved doesn't hurt, but can sometimes muddy the waters.

vkn: But even that will help sort out the mud so idea is a great one

alt: something as simple as how to write for help.. to people, organizations, institutions, etc... most of the older beginner's books had such a section... the BG could incorporate those concepts into email, and the modern means of communicationg .. for eaxample.

vkn: yes so many request go unheeded due to ineffective communication

3rdthawkins: so Lum is a Chinese Name.....hmmm

alt: maybe, maybe not 3rdthawkins

vkn: Also researchers need to understand that staff in courthouses are not there to do genealogy

3rdthawkins: no alt, in the article, a Chinese woman with the last name Lum

alt: exactly vkn

3rdthawkins: Lum is the same as the Chinese name Li

alt: are all Lum's chinese. that's what I'm asking 3rdthawkins

3rdthawkins: don't think so alt

alt: or even excuse the expression "oreintal"

daviss: vkn the kidnapped baby from 27 yrs ago was from Atlanta

Selma: asian alt

AYWalton: there must be 2 stories.

alt: Oriental... I"m told that isn't PC... it now refers to 'rugs" LOL

vkn: Yes daviss big news today

Selma: As a former co-worker said (he is Chinese)..Oriental's are rugs

AYWalton: I just read about a baby kidnapped from Harlem hospital who grew up in Connecticut and she is 23. and African American.

daviss: It was just on MSNBC

vkn: lol selma is too too funny

daviss: I thought they said she was now living in Atlanta AY

vkn: AYWalton same story

AYWalton: ahhh she might be living in Atlanta now, I am not sure.

daviss: or is that where the center is

alt: right Selma, that's what I was told... Asian, or something, but never Oriental if you want to be PC.

ProfessorDru: angela, that story was on this morning's news. gotta run

daviss: what about Lumbee could they have shortened that pround heritage though proud

AYWalton: I think the term Lumbee comes from the region in Roberson County NC, near the Lumberton River.

vkn: More than two decades ago, a newborn sick with fever was snatched from a New York City hospital, her frantic mother returning to the emergency room to find an empty crib. On Wednesday, police said the baby — now a woman living in Atlanta — has been found

3rdthawkins: good article, thanks AYWalton, shed some light

AYWalton: ahhh yes, she did live in Atlanta. glad she found her family.

vkn: Born NY Lived CT Living Atlanta

AYWalton: she resembles her relatives as well. I saw a clip online a few moments ago.

vkn: A wonderful story

daviss: I am too AYWalton. That gave me a glimmer of hope regarding my x..

AYWalton: oh really daviss?

daviss: my x natural parents I mean Those cards were not out that far back though

AYWalton: I see.

daviss: just a feeling I have had for yrs AYWalton

AYWalton: sounds like an interesting story, daviss.

daviss: and quite frankly the reason I am now into research

Selma: Interesting the different reasons we started research

daviss: thats for sure Selma!

alt: Horace-Charles post is an interesting twist... An African born person looking for roots in America, rather than vice-versa.

vkn: Caller re ESSENCE this morning had LOTS of noise in background. I kept asking her to please repeat Finally she said Can I call you back I am in the social service office and they just called my number. I am still laughing

Selma: LOL What is the surname alt..on Horace Charles

daviss: boy vkn! your phone may really ring off the hook

alt: the far reaching tentacles of a well written and presented genealogy article LOL not sure, but doesn't read that way Selma.. Horce & chalres appear to be surnames

vkn: I too found that one interesting alt

AYWalton: where was that query, alt?

alt: and it mentions Culpeper Co., Va as the American roots before the ancestors went to Liberia Selma

AYWalton: or the query from Horace Charles?

vkn: They are Liberians AYWalton

Selma: I was just looking at Boggers book...thats why I asked, he has list of folks who left from Norfolk VA

daviss: in the body it stated Charles-Horace branch

Selma: I have another book here somewhere..

3rdthawkins: daviss, I do consider those kind of names, like Lumpkin when I see it, never know

alt: the poster may be in luck... quite a bit of documentation on the ACS and those families who went to Liberia.

daviss: Does that book also say Boggess Selma

Selma: Boggess? The author is Dr. Tommy L. Bogger Gott run

daviss: ok I misunderstood lol looking for Boggess

AYWalton: I too have to go. Have a great day everyone.

alt: darn what's up folks skedaddling LOL

vkn: alt maybe invite peeps to chat re BG

3rdthawkins: oops

Seventies Soulchild: lol hey y'all

3rdthawkins: wb

daviss: wb seventies

vkn: heyyyyyy seventies

alt: that is an idea worth looking into vkn.... folsk are into chat, text's. tweets, Facebook, etc.

Seventies Soulchild: yes I'm still not a big fan of tweeting though

alt: old fashinoned me.. I'm not into any of it Seventies Soulchild... LOL ust now getting the 'hang' of FaceBook.

Seventies Soulchild: lol I see alt. I tell you when I saw your update last month I was shocked! lol

3rdthawkins: wb

Seventies Soulchild: wb daviss

alt: something about 'old dogs' & 'new tricks' LOL

daviss: I hit the wrong button

Seventies Soulchild: :}

daviss: did you get anything on Black History Month Seventies for the folks on your job

Seventies Soulchild: that was for both alt and daviss... lol

alt: 3rdthawkins, when you write/call institutions do you have somewhat of a standard request form?

Seventies Soulchild: daviss, they are just now working on the calendar... no comment. . .

3rdthawkins: no alt

daviss: they din't ask you for input

Seventies Soulchild: lol no.

daviss: their loss

3rdthawkins: some have request forms alt to write in, not all

Seventies Soulchild: they have groups here that take of all that. So I just wanted to know what they were having so I could bring the kids to the events.

daviss: oic

alt: I wonder 3rdthawkins, like it was mentioned earlier there are sections in most Beginner's Guide's on how to write an effective request for help to individuals/groups mentioned.

Seventies Soulchild: Our MLK luncheon was cancelled due to the snow.. that was a bummer.

3rdthawkins: ahh, I see where you are going alt, I had the same idea in mind also, wouldn't hurt to have a request sheet to fill in and push submit

daviss: guess i will go for real now have a good day

Seventies Soulchild: :} ok have a good day daviss I'm about done here too. y'all have a good afternoon. Stay warm alt & 3rdthawkins

3rdthawkins: not sure if that's what you meant

vkn: also alt sometimes the requests tell too much of the family story.

alt: it is 3rdthawkins, let folks know a request for all you have on xyz won't get it when requesting help, but the is a procedure/method to asking for hlep exactly vkn

vkn: o just give the what is needed

alt: and don't tell me all of what you already know... just ask for what you want 'speciifcally'.

3rdthawkins: right alt

alt: and you write the request differently depending on the who & what you're asking for... this is something I think a beginner should know.

3rdthawkins: yep, I agree

vkn: So glad yall will be reworking the Guide

alt: and the simple matter of including a self addressed stamped envelope if you expect to recieve a written response.

vkn: Gotta run and break fast

3rdthawkins: ok vkn

alt: OOps. too late

3rdthawkins: ran her away with too many ideas, lol

alt: I'll turn out the lights 3rdthawkins Laters LOL

3rdthawkins: ok alt


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