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2011-01-16 SunMorn Brnch*LunchBunch*SatNiteChat*SunMornBrnch *LunchBunchStart: 12:23:02
melissa: good afternoon! *SatNiteChatStart: 00:10:25
di: goodnight i will chat with you later---email me if need be- 3rdthawkins: ok later, and will email my "shopping" list nite *SunMornBrnchStart: 10:47:28
jhonora: Morning 3rdthawkins 3rdthawkins: hello jhonora, brb jhonora: Morning di di: morning jhonora 3rd brb 3rdthawkins: ok back, hello di what's going on jhonora jhonora: Nothing much 3rd. Working lately on my DuBose and Nelson lines. 3rdthawkins: ok, yeah, talking to my grandfather's cousin last nite, I am expanding my search for my paternal grandmother's mother to a white person jhonora: You mean your gr-grandmother was white? 3rdthawkins: also doing research on Roquemore line in TX for my materna line I'm thinking so jhonora, I was talking to my gf's cousin and she explained that people were telling her that she was a white woman, and though I argued my case, I am thinking she may be right. My great grandfather was very light, like Tan complexion, if he married a black woman, no way my grandmother and her siblings would be as white (or light) as they are were jhonora: Interesting. Where was this? What time period? What name? 3rdthawkins: well, my great grandmother was Mada Ruth Jefferson, parents James and Anna/Roxianna, Mada was stated as born in Virginia in 1930 census (born about 1910). She is listed as Negro in census and on her DC. I cannot find her or her parents any where before 1930 not even a marriage rec for my great grandparents jhonora: So Mada is the one who could have been white? 3rdthawkins: yes di: was she listed as mulatto anywhere 3rdthawkins: Negro in 1930, Colored on her DC, that's all I have, unfortunately di: ok jhonora: Do those parents' names come from her DC? 3rdthawkins: yes jhonora: Who did she marry and where did they live? 3rdthawkins: my great grandfather Dennis Hawkins. They lived in Queens County (Jamaica) New York do you think if I order his marriage license from his second marriage it would give me information concering his first marriage? jhonora: It may ... Did they divorce? 3rdthawkins: I have marriage rec to his second wife, who also was a white woman, wondering if it could give me infor concering his first marriage, like marriage date/place, and perhaps where she was born...........No jhonora, my great grandmother died jhonora: His second wife was absolutely a white woman? 3rdthawkins: I can't order my grandmother's BC, and that is hurting me right now yes jhonora jhonora: Well, interracial marriage was allowed in NY 3rdthawkins: I see but funny thing, when I search for my great grandmother, most matches are black in VA jhonora: Why couldn't she have been fair-complexioned black? I have bonified pictures of "mulatto-looking" folks who were almost always listed as black and of "brown/dark" people listed as mulatto. 3rdthawkins: could be jhonora, my gf's cousin specifically heard that she was WHITE, people were describing her after my gm and her siblings came down to SC. And my grandmother and two of her siblings look White, only one, the youngest, is Tan, like the father jhonora: Any idea where in Va. she came from? 3rdthawkins: nope jhonora, just have the 1930 Census jhonora: Unfortunately practically no one has an obit in NYC 3rdthawkins: hello vkn di: good morning vkn vkn: Good morning jhonora: Morning vkn vkn: Getting many phone calla from ESSENCE readers seeking help to find their ancestirs. The calls are welcone BUT we did not have a plan in place for managing the onslaught. A big window of opportunity for AfriGeneas Yeahhhhh jhonora: 3rd, what did they name the daughters? Could any of the names be relatives? 3rdthawkins: could be jhonora, not sure, certainly my grandmother was named after her mother jhonora: That's a good sign. You didn't find any matches in 1920 or 1910? 3rdthawkins: nope vkn: So I would ask that considered response be given to those posts on surnames with ess in the subject kine. Bear in mind that these are brand new people to genealogu Thanx jhonora: vkn, I've tried lately to respond to several posts and couldn't due to password. 3rdthawkins: ok vkn jhonora: 3rd, so your gm was Roxianna vkn: send me issue jhonora for immediate fix response jhonora: will do, vkn. 3rdthawkins: great grandmother's mother jhonora keli1: Good morning cousins! 3rdthawkins: hello Keli1 and alt, bumped into each other on the way in I see hello Seventies seventies soulchild: good morning everyone keli1: yes we did, hello all jhonora: Morning seventies_soulchild, keli1, alt alt: hello All. 3rd, di, jhonora, keli1, 70's vkn.. vkn: di I will call you later today. Been on site since 4AM Gotta stop now to prepare breakfast. Howdy seventies Howdy alt jhonora: 3rd, your gm was named after your gr-grandmother's mother? vkn: Getting many phone calla from ESSENCE readers seeking help to find their ancestirs. The calls are welcone BUT we did not have a plan in place for managing the onslaught. A big window of opportunity for AfriGeneas Yeahhhhh So I would ask that considered response be given to those posts on surnames with ess in the subject kine. Bear in mind that these are brand new people to genealogu Thanx 3rdthawkins: jhonora she was named after her mother, save the name Mada di: sorry, i connected with someone on ancestry and was corresponding seventies soulchild: ok are you organizing by state, vkn? 3rdthawkins: that's cool di, connect away, let us not get in the way of that di: Good Morning to all vkn: lol just by calls lol seventies soulchild: uh oh lol di: not a prob vkn alt: the results of the Essence article... unintended consequences, huh.. the onslaught of gnereated interest. di: oh never in the way. i am multitasking with the other 5 tabs open. keli1: Vkn, what can we do the help on that jhonora: ditto vkn: yes alt but it is great. I sure hope all here recognize the power of the Essence press to what we do!!!!!!!!!! di: i don't mind helping where i can as well. keli1: generating interest is always the goal, more importantly, what do you do with the info once you get it vkn: watch for ess in the subject line in posts on surnames alt: how about directing folks to the Beginner's Guide on AfriGeneas as a 1st step when they request help in finding their ancestors... Got to let them know there is a 'process'. vkn: Post to surnames when permitted by the caller keli1 keli1: seeking local genealogy groups, historical societies is always good to get your feet wet alt: MOst 'general' articles, including Essence make the process seem pretty easy. vkn: and send me your email address and I will point each of you to a new ess post via the tell a friend icon di: ok so i multitasked into telling her to join the chat keli1: vkn,newbies really need an outline of the steps and process, like Art suggested there is a wealth of info on the afrigeneas site, but overwhelming to the new person... alt: don't want to scare folks away, but they should learn that it ain't magic and it ain't easy.. work is required and a knowledge of how-to. 3rdthawkins: ok di, fresh blood, :} :p di: well i just hope she sees the message in time. keli1: sounds good, add me to the list keli1@aol.com as I multitask on a new presentation for the local upcoming LDS Family History Center conference di: lol vkn: just a welcome glad you have joined us is good beginning keli1: lol @3rd, I think of them as potential relatives with information alt: right vkn... and then an 'oh, by the way .......' vkn: is that feb 26 keli1 di: how about something on the front that page that says....i saw the article in Essence now I need to know where to go...then give link to essential beginner areas of the site keli1: Charlottesville LDS family history center is focusing on the newbies the whole day centered around how to get started, etc...April 16th, Charlottesville Virginia vkn: oh ok thanx keli1 keli1: The tracks will walk them through the process, etc, step by step..., so it should be interesting alt: as Selma might say .. step #1 read a book, step #2 get a map LOL LOL vkn: lol alt: lol . icons aren't working? keli1: lol, that is Selma.. I say start asking questions, figure out what you know, what you don't know and then seek out who knows what you don't...my theme vkn: The queries seem to all say "I dont know anything about my fathers side of the family can you help me"? keli1: yes that is typically, but someone knows vkn: The queries seem to all say "I dont know anything about my fathers side of the family can you help me"? "But I am closer to my mother and I have her side..." alt: that seems to be a dominant theme with AA families .. we know/learn of Mama's folks, but seldom Daddy's in the beginning of our family histroy. 3rdthawkins: seem like a Theme with black folks vkn keli1: and we have generations that are still coming up that way vkn: and I am trying to embrace the caller and grab basic info within a max call of one inute or less. keli1: I have a friend who was adopted, her mother actually lived in her neighborhood, everyone knew it but her, tell the lady that adopted her passed, it all came out vkn: one minute 3rdthawkins: hello Khathu Khathu: good morning keli1: draft a script to utilize the website more, that might help alt: good morning Khathu keli1: good morning khathu! vkn: Howdy Khathu and a big King Day Welcome to you!!!!!!! 3rdthawkins: speak of, Alt, how did the play go, or was that just rehearsal? di: good morning Khathu i did not come in from the front page, are there any special chats planned for monday. keli1: in the community where I do some work, 4 sisters with kids, all by the same man, figthing constantly at the school bus stop, I want to find this brotha and say or remove a few things alt: could the AfriGeneas Home Page somehow direct follks to the 'site map' to see what is available in the form of help, perhaps even place the site map on the Home Page itseld. vkn: keli1 please send me your phone number and a good time to call vkn@afrigeneas.com keli1: for sure vkn vkn: alt good idea 3rdthawkins: when you say sisters, keli1, do you mean black women, or they were actually sisters? keli1: Black women, not related 3rdthawkins: oh ok, wording is everything vkn: Starting a new med today alt and all for the Rheumatoid Arthritis called Simponi. It is a once a month injection with a price of $1900.00 and my share of cost is $175.00 !!!! 3rdthawkins: ok, that must be old folks convo right there alt: Wow, best wishes with the new med vkn vkn: so gotta leave to get that started. Side effects are serious. Thanx alt keli1: so sorry to hear that vkn, we have my mom on a tonic and she is doing well..I will send you the name of it, maybe it will help you as well alt: take care vkn vkn: Watched the Nicholas DVD in part yesterday { consumes 4 hours!!!!!] But is well presented keli1: sorry about that 3rd, what do you mean "old folks" conversation alt: Khathu,,, hav eyou ever looked at the Indianaplos Freeman... an AA newspeprs that has news of the AA communities around Indy for the time period your folks settled in Brazil, IN keli1: Art, what is the Nicholas DVD vkn mentioned? 3rdthawkins: guess elderly keli1, those who mainly go through it alt: I think it is a DVD by Derek Nicholas who has been posting to the AfriGeneas Forums, mostly the Slave Forum. Khathu, you can find online copies of The Freeman on the google newspaper archive website. keli1: Thanks @alt, I have not visited the Slave Forum in a while, I will have to check it out. I think I settled on going to Ft. Wayne over others this year alt: okay, I hope to see you in Ft. Wayne keli1 keli1: That is the plan, has anyone sat thru or witnessed a good session on photos, photography, dating and preserving documents, etc 3rdthawkins: talk about mind in the gutter, kind threw me for a loop when you said dating alt: a fellow named Eric Basir out of Chicago does some excellent photo session keli1 .. 3rdthawkins: I'm thinking, what dating has to do with genealogy, lol,. keli1: 3rd, what, lol...it has a lot, both ways 3rdthawkins: lol keli1 alt: he was at FT. Wayne & he attends most of the larger gen conferences across the country keli1... and he is a 'brother' keli1: Art, that name is familiar, seems like he has a presentation on the roots page from a conference in 2006, I will seek him out alt: he is very good keli1 keli1: than it is not the same, the one on roots was white, I will find Eric, was he in Ft. Wayne in 09'? alt: 3rdthawkins, no dating, no genealogy LOL jhonora: Morning Dru ProfessorDru: hey gang 3rdthawkins: well, I guess I'll get me a date then :} keli1: Hi Dru, happy new yeat to you! alt: yes he was keli1 .. and he looks 'white' LOL 3rdthawkins: hello ProDru alt: hi ProfessorDru keli1: maybe it is the same person di: Good Afternoon ProfessorDru ProfessorDru: happy new year to you too keli1 3rd, you're getting a date to go where? lol di: well my battery life is telling me i can not stay longer than i would like so have a good afternoon. 3rdthawkins: scroll up little more ProfessorDru lol ProfessorDru: 3rd, don't see any explanation. keli1: 3rd let me know when you go on the date...share the info, lol. What/who are you looking for Dru, I used the word dating referencing photos and he took it as dating as in going out on a date... 3rdthawkins: would like to get a marriage date for my paternal grandmother's mother, that's for sure my paternal grandmother's parents ProfessorDru: ok keli alt: working the 'net is something else... lady queried our AAGGMV site about an ancestor in Oberlin, Ohio mid to late 1800's with a Canadian connection... between ancestry, familysearch & the Oberlin AA gen society group.. we had some answers for within 45 mins... Amazing!!!! from the olden days LOL ProfessorDru: that's great alt keli1: I need a marriage date for William Michael Murphy and Nellie McCorkle, sometime btw 1885-1888 alt: is the VA/WV keli1? 3rdthawkins: where Keli1? keli1: Wonderful Art, Rev Charles Bailey from Oberlin brought a Imes with them to Michigan... di: ok nevermind stole the cord...lol keli1: Murphy-McCorkle, could be TN or KY, we are not sure where alt: Oberlin has some great AA history keli1 there are McCorkle's connected to the WV & SE Ohio folks keli1 keli1: Nellie was born in Green Co. TN, her momma was a Henry, I can't find when she married or a death record on the Murphy, Nellie remarried to Henry Giles and still can't find death record on Nellie or Henry Giles either, just pityful another one of the wonderful challenges of genealogical research... alt: McCorkle-Barnett marriage in Washington Co., Oho 1857 keli, might look at Ohio for a McCorkle connection. Khathu, are you with us? keli1: Nellie was born in 1868/9 to Rose (Henry) and John McCorkle, Nellie and Rose left Green Tn and went to Knoxville. I will check them out. The McCorkles were free di: i hope that with the all the new people visiting and interacting with the site it will spark up some fire under some individuals who may have felt they had exhausted all there was. or became "stale" in researching keli1: or felt they hit brick walls, instead they just had challenging they didn't know how to handle alt: right di.. hopefully the wil learn there is no " all there was' LOL keli1: @alt, lol, so true Khathu: yes i am here 3rdthawkins: need a new cpu, this one is terrible on the beta site Khathu: working on a presentation on slave era research keli1: wondeful Khathu!!! alt: the AA newspaper Indianapolis Freeman may have informtion on your Brazil, IN folks Khathu ... it can be found online at the google newspaper archive. hello melissa, welcome Khathu: okay...thanks alt keli1: I posted info on Plecker in VA, on twitter, some folks didn't know the power of the Plecker pen... Hello Melissa, wb 3rd melissa: I made it 3rdthawkins: hello melissa di: hello melissa melissa: hello everyone alt: very powerful keli1, he basically 'wiped out' a whole race, or ethnic group with his pen. Hello melissa, welcome di: melissa murray line? keli1: yes he did and still causing havic in the world of research in VA, my opinion melissa: yes Murray di: ok hi glad you made it over! keli1: Melissa, what surnames and areas are you researching? @wonder if anyone has done research and presentation of the Plecker impacts melissa: Murray from SC/FL, Brown from SC, Ford/Ross/Donnelly from Grenada, MS keli1: @melissa, I have Ross's from Virginia/West VA, specificially in Jefferson County, WV melissa: I believe they came from Virginia. The oldest member that I have found says she is from VA. I have also been told that they were owned by the Ross or Rosses family in VA 3rdthawkins: hello daviss daviss: good morning everyone! 3rdthawkins: yeah, for you! di: hello Daviss 3rdthawkins: though I still got a little piece of it :} keli1: Okay, if you find out where in VA, let me know...let's keep in touch, my email is keli1@aol.com, you can find me here most Sunday's Hi Daviss...good morning daviss: mabe I should say afternoon everyone! lol except for 3rd melissa: I will thank you daviss: hello melissa! 3rdthawkins: melissa: hi keli1: Where are you from Melissa, I am in Central VA area, near Charlottesville melissa: i am from long island but my family is from the south daviss: I just read back and see that you have Ms folks also. That is Seventies Souldchilds area any Texans Melissa alt: hello daviss, how are ya today? melissa: texas on johnson/ford side not murray daviss: I overslept this morning alt after waking up at around 3:15 a.m. 3rdthawkins: I have family live on LI from late 1920s to present daviss: where are your Johnson and Fords from in Tx alt: are you near Westbury melissa? keli1: my son is in Valley Stream... melissa: i am about 15 minutes from westbury and valley stream alt: okay, I have you located now LOL 3rdthawkins: GIBBES-PAYSON (Charleston, South Carolina) SANDERS-GARIETY (Charleston, South Carolina) HAWKINS-BRYANT (Charleston & Berkeley Counties, South Carolina) LUM (Charleston, SC; China) JEFFERSON (Virginia) HUGHES-COPELAND (Texas, South Carolina) FOUNTAIN-WILLIAMSON (Arkansas, Alabama) ISLEY (Arkansas, North Carolina) JOHNSON (Louisiana, Mississippi) TOWNSEND (Texas) CUMMINGS (Texas) melissa: I believe the Johnson/Ford's are in ... I want to say Houston. They just had a reunion there in the summer I'm in Babylon alt: an dhow long have you been on the 'genealogy' trail melissa? melissa: I believe I started in 2000 with oral history that I am now finding to me mostly incorrect daviss: that sure happens melissa 3rdthawkins: aint that something alt: hhehehehe,, like most of us melissa, if not incorrect, certainly different from what we've been told. 3rdthawkins: though my oral history mainly be correct, though a little off because of the person telling the story daviss: however they see what they see sometimes 3rdthawkins: also depends on what the oral history is melissa: With the Murray family that migrated North, there were all "first" cousins. That was so far from the truth daviss: I suppose they were called aunts and uncles lol di: melissa but it may have been what they were told or believed but in some fashion melissa: we had to, or cousin.... alt: yeah, that's the one that gets ya melissa, relationships.. I can deal with differing Dates & Spellings, but relationships is sumpin else. melissa: my mother keeps saying, "that's what we were told" 3rdthawkins: yeah, my grandmother and her siblings called their stepmother Aunt Jean, so thought she was an Aunt di: but in that area all you know is that that is your cousin. i can't tell you how i am related to half the washingtons on the other side of the hill but "they family" keli1: it is not unusally for oral history to be stretched a bit, it is just what was passed on, and we document both.. daviss: my Uncle Charlie is really my 2nd cousin but because he was so much older we thought he was an uncle di: does your mother talk about bish melissa: my mother doesnt remember anyone until i bring them up 3rdthawkins: I get that a lot keli1: one thing I think we all can agree on there was a whole bunch of "talkin stories" going on in our families...my mom is the griot of the family, I have been so blessed, she started all of this obsession in our family di: daviss and see i may throw my kids off cause as my rule of thumb growing up was i called all elders aunt or uncle so and so. (because cousins you call by first name and i dare not approach certain elders and call em by they first name) alt: that's also a common occurence melissa. then they'll say something like " I thought you knew" LOL di: ask her about him, the stories are so diverse! daviss: thats the truth for sure di melissa: my mother had me drive to Georgia trying to find her grandmother's name and when I told you, she said oh I thought you knew that keli1: @alt lol, for sure, I have an Aunt, who is 88, she will not speak of anything negative of the past, she holds her view and only her view, daviss: We grew up so far away from family that all the oral stories that may help guide me have been missed melissa: sorry guys, I have to go do the cheerleading carpool. I'm trying to get my mother to finish chatting with you guys alt: hi Melissa's MOm di: if i dare mention anything negative or thought of as negative i am quiclkly told off and told to leave the dead dead and the past in the past! keli1: have a good one melissa, we hope to see you back, who is your mom? di: melissa stay in touch we will have to talk daviss: Pop Warner melissa? keli1: yes yes di!!! Ms. Lillian is the same way, she was born in Ft. Wayne, had wonderful memories, but what I found wasn't that great 3rdthawkins: Wb Seventeis daviss: heyyy seventies soulchild seventies soulchild: Thanks.. hey all hey daviss! daviss: who is Ms Lillian keli1? alt: hello seventies soulchild keli1: What is your most fondest memory of Dr. King? seventies soulchild: Ok I was going to suggest that vkn draw up a 5 question list to get some of these callers started. keli1: she is my aunt, father's only living sister seventies soulchild: hey alt 3rdthawkins: dont' know, never met the man keli1 daviss: ah ok.. thats wonderful keli1 seventies soulchild: But I missed out on the conversation. di: that is so cool that melissa might have found another connect on here! see it is so vital! daviss: Any Tolberts for you in Indy keli1? keli1: 3rd??? I never met him either, but have memories of the interviews he gave as well as the speeches were had to watch, Daddy's orders di: seventies soulchild can always email her! seventies soulchild: welcome to melissa & hello to di, jhonora, Keli1, 3rd and jhonora alt: how bout Tolbert's in Greencastle & Terre Haute, IN daviss? keli1: Not that I know of Daviss? hello to you 70s di: hi seventies soulchild ! daviss: lol now alt you know I never have a county or state or city all I know is Joseph Tolliver and wife Lucy 3rdthawkins: jsut from footages keli1, I don't have any fondest memories, I only have what they only show. Maybe photos of footages of seeing him with his kids, that is the best alt: 3rdthawkins, when he told me to call him Martin.. at Dexter Ave, Baptist Church in Montgomery, AL in March of 1956. daviss: I strike the state from that last comment alt 3rdthawkins: photos AND Footages that was cool alt keli1: yes I think the photos impact a lot...would he be proud of where we have gone or not gone...thoughts? daviss: sons Ro or Robert and Joseph Jr also born in Indy alt keli1: beautiful Art...a lasting memory. 3rdthawkins: from what I do know or heard of about him, I think he would always see something that needs change. Great minds are like that, never at rest and never fully satisfied, and that's in a positive way (sometimes negative though) daviss: Keli1 I think he would be rolling around now with all the disrespect people have shown our Pres alt: I think he would be amazed at the disrepect that our AA youth show the older generations, perhaps some of it is wrranted, but it is disrespect nonetheless. keli1: I felt he was a good educator in his attempts for the change 3rdthawkins: thy alt, was thinking about that seventies soulchild: I am too young to have any fond memories of Dr. King. . . but I'm glad he did the work that he did, especially at the end of his life. keli1: yes, yes, it is shameful in my book, but my children and children around me, no matter whose they are, will not disrepect anyone, they do it at home, but not in my presence...I ain't having it 3rdthawkins: lets remember, he would be 81 years old, just wondering how it would be hearing him speak on tv seventies soulchild: You know I think that he would've been a little embarrassed with his own children's behavior, though. keli1: Ahhh my mom's age, I believe he would be tired but would keep going seventies soulchild: Especially at the end of his wife's life. daviss: agree seventies but I venture to say that had he been alive those things may not have happened keli1: yea he is turning over in his grave so to speak. 3rdthawkins: kids bicker after parents death, they did not do it when mom was alive seventies soulchild: Agree another black man cut down in his prime, on purpose. alt: sibling rivalry & squabbles are to be expected, especially if there is money & a legacy involved... seventies soulchild: The Shabazz sisters didn't do that. . . daviss: no one wants my legacy so I am spending my money now lol lol alt: huh !!!!!!! @ seventies soulchild seventies soulchild: Nor did the Little family. . . . I think that's almost excusing bad behavior. keli1: the negative stuff all links to the all might dollar alt: aren't they just now reconciling over past differences seventies soulchild? seventies soulchild: With the NOI, not with each other.... 3rdthawkins: if we're talking about Malcolm's kids, didn't his grandson kill or try to kill/burn his Macolm's wife? keli1: Do you think the difference in faith had anything to do with that? seventies soulchild: Yes he did, but what does that event have to do with the sisters??? 3rdthawkins: just saying, Seventies, gosh keli1: yes he set fire to the house they also didn't have the money the King family did and still has 3rdthawkins: I'm just speaking of children or grandchildren or any descendants who have "bad behavior" after the person's death seventies soulchild: They may not have as much 'money' as the King kids, but their father has a great reputation and legacy worldwide 3rdthawkins: don't know anything about the daughters of M X's seventies soulchild: I'm not sure if it has anything to do with their religion keli1 Just simply making an observation. alt: I can only speak for myself, but my kids, grandkids have not turned out to be the 'great' folks they were raised to be. LOL daviss: lol @ alt seventies soulchild: lol stop throwing shade alt... lol 3rdthawkins: welcome to my grandfather's world Alt daviss: you mean the ones that said when they grow up they were gonna buy you a house or a car alt keli1: yea 70s, my observation as well, but faith has influence negative and positive. I can speak for my kids, they turned out good for what they are doing, I don't have any grandchildren and probalby won't, the grand dogs are living up to their potential seventies soulchild: lol keli1 di: keli1: I love my granddogs, they even visit me and I fly down to visit them, planning a trip now... daviss: mom was prolly testing the waters di alt: you give the 'roots & wings" and hope they can make the best of their lives, not to satify you, but themselves. di: yeah didn't think anout that, i would hav said something to her. daviss: Amen alt! seventies soulchild: hey you know, people have their own dreams and aspirations for their lives. Read Khalil Gibran's words on this. keli1: Amen to that Alt seventies soulchild: ditto alt! di: melissa is a cousin of mines i found on ancestry...by accident at that keli1: my wedding vows came from Gibran, lol, didn't last but 15 yrs seventies soulchild: I love accidental finds di. . . daviss: awesome di! lol @ keli seventies soulchild: alt: wondeful di.. great to make a connection and one who has genealogy in their heart is a bonus. keli1: that is wondeful di..loose ends will get tied up now seventies soulchild: I've been mining the heck out of facebook... lol Finding lots of my great aunt's descendants online. di: not too much i dont think. she has been in touch with another relative who researches kinda the same line. daviss: my mother had several of his books seven and keli1.. I gave one to each of my brothers after my mom passed. seventies soulchild: Dinah Callins keli1: which books daviss? daviss: Kalil alt: I'm outa here y'all ... take care. daviss: bye alt seventies soulchild: di, that's how I found some of my great grandfather's nieces and nephews. daviss: I have found a few relatives and a very very old and dear friend on fb seventies soulchild: Ok for y'all who watch TVOne, Mama Flora's family is coming on soon I hope that you enjoy BHM daviss: thx seventies seventies soulchild: YW daviss daviss: you know thayt will be my focus thayt = that seventies soulchild: Yes. . . Mariah. daviss: If I dont find her in 11, I am giving completely up seventies soulchild: You said that in 2010! And you haven't given up di: daviss i dont remember your response the other day i asked if you are researching davis lines daviss: :o seventies soulchild: So why stop now?? :} di: davis who are you looking for for the next 11months? daviss: I am researching Daviss/Davis in Grimes County Texas via unk county in NC di: oh...no connection...darn! daviss: di a love of mine named Mariah. she is my elusive one where is your friends Davis from di? seventies soulchild: You still have no possible maiden name right daviss? keli1: I wish I had a connection on DAvis there, mine are in PA and maybe based on questions raised might be VA daviss: possible Wells seventies but nothing else di: hey!!! where in pa? this line is some in Phila then back to SC. keli1: Franklin County, starting with 1843 and suppose to be Philadelphia prior to that, but nothing to prove the oral history on Philadelphia daviss: I have a marriage lic that has a Lawrence and Mariah but no way of knowing if its her seventies seventies soulchild: You know, so many people migrated during the CW maybe your answer could lie there. daviss: thats why I need to find them in 70 and 80 di: what kind of names you working with keli1 keli1: William Davis b. 1814/17 in PA, married Mildred Ann Brand b. 1825, VA, they had all their children in Franklin County PA di: Davis if I find any of em in nc I am gonna contact you! daviss: thanks much di keli1: Davis, Goen/Goings, Murphy, Marsh, Mccorkle, Cureton, Worden, Boyer, Henry, Goddard.... 3rdthawkins: your prob is that you can even locate her and her son Joseph in 1880, right daviss? di: no frank county and no va! darn again! 3rdthawkins: can-Can't daviss: right 3rd nor lawrence 3rdthawkins: right keli1: oh I forget my Johson's out of VA/WV 3rdthawkins: wb jhonora: ty seventies soulchild: No luck with either of them in MS, right? daviss: jhonora heyyy seventies soulchild: wb jhonora 3rdthawkins: or LA daviss: nor in la seventies soulchild: What about Oklahoma? Or Arkansas? daviss: no okla then seventies di: wb jhonora jhonora: No ideas for any siblings of Mada, 3rdthawkins? seventies soulchild: Just trying to think of surrounding states daviss. 3rdthawkins: nope jhonora di: my davis hass lead me to an adams, that is pretty much all i got in surnames so far. but hey it has only been about 2 weeks! daviss: I know seventies :} lol @ di mine has been since 91 3rdthawkins: guess I could look at other nearby Jeffersons jhonora in 1930, but no way of searching/researching further to know if any could would be related di: daviss so you are looking for a Mariah wells in ok? jhonora: In 1930 census, she is with her husband Hawkins right? daviss: are you researching Jeffersons jhonora 3rdthawkins: yep jhonora no, i am ss jhonora: No, daviss, just trying to help 3rd with some Jefferson. Jeffersons keli1: any link to the Jefferson's in VA 3rdthawkins: oops, no I am daviss daviss: di looking for her in Harrison County texas. under Wells and or Taylor 3rdthawkins: that's where my great grandmother is listed as being born keli1 di: speaking of elusive ones if anyone ever sees a parthena alford, parthena worthy, or nelson atwater. you hold them tight and contact me. seventies soulchild: jhonora, have you been contacted by anyone to do research on the USCTs or native guard in LA for this upcoming year? keli1: you can visit the monticello website and search the database daviss: where are your alfords 3rdthawkins: lol ok di, will do di: ga jhonora: No 70s, I haven't keli1: 3rd, I live 10 miles from Monticello, pass it everyday going home daviss: a friend is serching LA alfords seventies soulchild: ok hmmmm keli1: what is her name 3rd? 3rdthawkins: I'm having doubts if the names given on my great grandmother's DC are correct keli1 di: not me that i know of. jhonora: The name is Alfords, daviss 3rdthawkins: her name is Mada Ruth Jefferson, that's the way my grandmother gave it on her SSA, also that's the one her daughter put it on her DC. daviss: I have a Moses Jefferson born in VA but migrated to Tx keli1: but they say she was born here? daviss: I thought AlFords was what I said jhonora 3rdthawkins: daviss and keli1, I am thinking she may have been white, that's what I was telling jhonora earlier daviss: from La 3rdthawkins: census keli1, yes the DC says U.S. but that seems to be a thing with New York death certificates di: well i learned not to trust names no more! my great aunts admit to making slight changes in thier names..Jewell was born Jewell. and i cant remember but Shelvie Jean tweaked her name too...lol daviss: rather not migrated but sent keli1: you can post a guery on our website and see if you get additional info, if you would like, aahgscva@gmail.com or post on the www.centralvirginiahistory.org site daviss: so are you thinking that if the census says U.S. they may have been something else 3rd 3rdthawkins: ok, keli1 no daviss, I am ignoring it, that seems to be a thing or Theme, with New York Death certificates seventies soulchild: Ok I'm out. Everyone enjoy their day :} And enjoy MLK Day too! keli1: it will get funneled through, I belong to both groups and you never know what you might find, just inform of what you know daviss: ok just asking 3rdthawkins: bye SS jhonora: I was just clarifying that it was Alfords, daviss. Where are they from in La? di: i have a herndon in oxford nc...... daviss: yes, they are from LA. A friend is doing the research for them 3rdthawkins: thx keli1 daviss: One of her Alfords actually lived across the street from me in the 70 jhonora: Afternoon Selma 3rdthawkins: hello Selma, fellow VA researcher keli1: welcome Selma Selma: Good grief you'all still here...afternoon folks daviss: hello Selma! keli1: I am about to go, lol, things to do and places to go di: lol wb selma keli1: Selma, Charlottesville LDS Family History Center conference scheduled for April 16, designed for people just getting started...1 day daviss: take care out there Keli1 Selma: Umm..are you speaking keli di: anybody doing research in wv? daviss: not me di! Selma: Some of my husbands family migrated to WVA di...where are you looking keli1: yes, I am@ Selma 3rdthawkins: well, I am not limited my search for my great grandmother and her parents to just VA di, also looking in WVA di: not sure yet kinda just wanted to know who i could reach out to. this is going to be new territory for me this week. 3rdthawkins: limting keli1: I have extensive research in Jefferson County, VA/WV what county in West VA di: a female ancestor was born in wv, i am hoping with a name like zepher i may not have to many run ins....rofl daviss: heyyyy Selma: Approxomately when born di? daviss: last or first name di keli1: Zepher is an interesting surname, sounds like a business name, what county? daviss: Zepher means a gentle breeze di: first name 3rdthawkins: lol daviss daviss: my mothers first name di: born about 1894 in wv that is all i know today 3rdthawkins: we know about our most beloved names :} daviss: my gr gr aunts last name di: right now today. may know more in a min keli1: di have you been to the wvculture website Selma: West Virginia death records are online di: nope. nothing to do with wv has entered my search yet. keli1: marriage, death and birth are online for WV di: i think she died in pa. but again do not know yet. but i am so glad to know that keli1 and selma daviss: well lovely people I am gonna take off. Have a wonderful day Selma: Yep..gotta run too..have a great day keli1: byee daviss jhonora: I'm running too y'all keli1: di, visit this websitewww.wvculture.org/vrr/va di: thanks...bookmarked! keli1: I need to run as well, let me know if you need help on WV, am a bit familiar with it, go there every couple of months, thanks byeee all. di: well 3rd i guess i am out too. i have work i was suppose to finish hour ago,,....lol. till later 3rdthawkins: ok later di |
ok di, have a good day
keli1